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Kllrnohj
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| calc84maniac wrote: | | That, and TI almost never writes optimized code. |
Not necessarily. Remember, most people are trying to force/trick TI-BASIC into doing things it really wasn't designed for. It wasn't built for games and the like, after all. Keep in mind that all TI-BASIC numbers are floating point (and 9-ish bytes at that, iirc), and fp math is *slllooooowwww*. Not to mention you are working with a CPU that doesn't even handle basic things like multiplication, which only complicates the matter.
That said, I wouldn't exactly call TI's code highly optimized either, but do keep in mind what their goals and requirements for their code are.
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DJ Omnimaga
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Altough the TI-83 Plus manual (at least, the one from 1999-2002) states to use GetKey in stuff like video games. So maybe they still somewhat had calculator games in mind when they created TI-BASIC for most calculators
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KermMartian
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| xlibman wrote: | | Altough the TI-83 Plus manual (at least, the one from 1999-2002) states to use GetKey in stuff like video games. So maybe they still somewhat had calculator games in mind when they created TI-BASIC for most calculators |
Kevin is absolutely right, here's the quote from the guidebook:
| Code: | getKey
getKey returns a number corresponding to the last key pressed,
according to the key code diagram below. If no key has been pressed,
getKey returns 0. Use getKey inside loops to transfer control, for
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Kllrnohj
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| xlibman wrote: | | Altough the TI-83 Plus manual (at least, the one from 1999-2002) states to use GetKey in stuff like video games. So maybe they still somewhat had calculator games in mind when they created TI-BASIC for most calculators |
There is, however, a difference between what the language was *designed* to do and what it *can* do. There is also a huge difference between what it is good at and what it isn't. I'm quite positive that TI-BASIC wasn't built for video games. It may have been in the back of their minds, sort of like an engineering throwing it on there because they could, but it wasn't the focus.
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Ultimate Dev'r
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| Kllrnohj wrote: | | engineering throwing it on their |
lulz
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| Kllrnohj wrote: | | xlibman wrote: | | Altough the TI-83 Plus manual (at least, the one from 1999-2002) states to use GetKey in stuff like video games. So maybe they still somewhat had calculator games in mind when they created TI-BASIC for most calculators |
There is, however, a difference between what the language was *designed* to do and what it *can* do. There is also a huge difference between what it is good at and what it isn't. I'm quite positive that TI-BASIC wasn't built for video games. It may have been in the back of their minds, sort of like an engineering throwing it on their because they could, but it wasn't the focus. |
Absolutely, and that's why we have to come up with such awkward (or in Weregoose's case, elegant) hacks to get around the language's shortcomings. And Ultimate Dev'r, Kllrnohj did indeed make a classic internet blunder.
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Kllrnohj
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| Ultimate Dev'r wrote: | | Kllrnohj wrote: | | engineering throwing it on their |
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Yeah...
Hey, it was a long day and I had some booze before I posted that, can you blame me?
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| Kllrnohj wrote: | | Ultimate Dev'r wrote: | | Kllrnohj wrote: | | engineering throwing it on their |
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Yeah...
Hey, it was a long day and I had some booze before I posted that, can you blame me? |
yes, yes I can AND I HAVE *affirmative smirk*
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