Welcome to the topic for the sequel of Basic Basic Revolution (Now renamed to BBR Classic), titled Basic Basic Revolution: The Graphical. Can this even be considered a sequel? Anyway, this version has new improved graphics over the home screen-based BBRev Classic.



BBRev Classic: https://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=306175#306175
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?

Nope! This is all written in pure Basic, using plot sprites.
One word, How, that is very impressive, how do you do that? Dude, you're giving me some good thoughts for the intro of TI-wars
linkjt9 wrote:
One word, How, that is very impressive, how do you do that? Dude, you're giving me some good thoughts for the intro of TI-wars


Magic! Hehe, sorry.
It takes some time and practice, and a lot of ON breaks. To be honest, I'm still not entirely familiar with working with the graph screen, but one can learn Smile
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?

Nope! This is all written in pure Basic, using plot sprites.
Nice idea! Plot sprites are quite fast. I have the Zelda logo saved somewhere (I should really publish it or post the code somewhere) and on a CSE it loads in about 1.5 seconds and even faster on CE calcs.
Can you display things over plot sprites?
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?

Nope! This is all written in pure Basic, using plot sprites.
Nice idea! Plot sprites are quite fast. I have the Zelda logo saved somewhere (I should really publish it or post the code somewhere) and on a CSE it loads in about 1.5 seconds and even faster on CE calcs.


Is there a good tool you recommend to make plot sprites? To make those two icons, I had GIMP up on my laptop with the sprite open, and the builtin list editor on the calc. This process was an absolute pain in the rear, the dance icon taking ~15min for the actual design while it took an ENTIRE HOUR to port to the calculator. sorry for my little rant there
linkjt9 wrote:
Can you display things over plot sprites?


I mean, yeah,


Code:
Plot1(Scatter,L1,L2,smallplotpoint,COLOR1
ClrDraw
Line(0,0,264,164,1,COLOR2


Note: I prefer to use the following window dimensions when dealing with sprites:

Code:
ZStandard
0→Xmin
264→Xmax
0→Ymin
164→Ymax
Would that display the line as well as the plot sprites at the same time?
linkjt9 wrote:
Would that display the line as well as the plot sprites at the same time?


Yes. To my experience and understanding, plots only draw until the next ClrDraw or screen update. So, the example code I gave draws the plot, then the line on top of it.
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?

Nope! This is all written in pure Basic, using plot sprites.
Nice idea! Plot sprites are quite fast. I have the Zelda logo saved somewhere (I should really publish it or post the code somewhere) and on a CSE it loads in about 1.5 seconds and even faster on CE calcs.


Is there a good tool you recommend to make plot sprites? To make those two icons, I had GIMP up on my laptop with the sprite open, and the builtin list editor on the calc. This process was an absolute pain in the rear, the dance icon taking ~15min for the actual design while it took an ENTIRE HOUR to port to the calculator. sorry for my vent there
Since I was using line-based stat plots to speed drawing up I made a program that lets you choose a pixel on the screen then it saved the coordinates in two lists until I no longer needed to enter any coordinates. There was no undo feature, though.

I hate programming graphics on my ce in basic which is why I still programmed my se for the longest time because I had full screen power. Then Celtic ce made my life easier.
StephenM wrote:
linkjt9 wrote:
Would that display the line as well as the plot sprites at the same time?


Yes. To my experience and understanding, plots only draw until the next ClrDraw or screen update. So, the example code I gave draws the plot, then the line on top of it.

Yea I originally had a for loop that was changing the L2 of the plot to make it look like someone was looking up at the star and I accidentally put the line in there so it would like kinda of do a seizure because the plot had to clear the other data on top of it, so my bad.
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
StephenM wrote:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
This looks quite cool. Do you use Celtic CE to draw the sprites?

Nope! This is all written in pure Basic, using plot sprites.
Nice idea! Plot sprites are quite fast. I have the Zelda logo saved somewhere (I should really publish it or post the code somewhere) and on a CSE it loads in about 1.5 seconds and even faster on CE calcs.


Is there a good tool you recommend to make plot sprites? To make those two icons, I had GIMP up on my laptop with the sprite open, and the builtin list editor on the calc. This process was an absolute pain in the rear, the dance icon taking ~15min for the actual design while it took an ENTIRE HOUR to port to the calculator. sorry for my vent there
Since I was using line-based stat plots to speed drawing up I made a program that lets you choose a pixel on the screen then it saved the coordinates in two lists until I no longer needed to enter any coordinates. There was no undo feature, though.



Neat!

Though, I'm not completely familiar with working with xyLine plot sprites, sooooo guess I should create my own Scatter Plot sprite editor
Question: Is an achievement system suitable for this type of game?
I would think so, you could have like this many perfects, or like a secret level, such as so that one could play the game without winning but still get achievements for doing something cool.
I have made quite a bit of progress on this. However, the game still needs a few weeks till it's ready for a release. Happy April fools by the way.

Also, would BBRG be considered v1.0 or 2.0? I suppose anything v1.x is Classic, and now v2.x is this, since these are under the same name of BBR.
  
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