Eeems wrote:
almost every ancient culture on earth has a flood story. so that has to be true.
What. The. Fuck.
Are you serious? Honestly? Ancient cultures also believed that the sun was some guy in a flaming chariot rode across the sky, yet that quite obviously isn't true.
Popular belief and truth very rarely go hand in hand.
Regardless, in this case it is because ancient cultures stole from each other to gain acceptance among the majority. Just about all modern Catholic and Jewish beliefs can be traced back to even older religions, INCLUDING Jesus and the virgin birth. http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/virgin.html#pagan
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also if you dig down enough like they have in some ancient cities there will be a layer of water smoothed earth, then more of the city.
Yes, floods are quite common, what is your point? There was no "noah's ark" with 2 of every animal like the bible said, but there were floods.
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and dinosaurs do not completely destroy the bible because before the flood creatures would have grown to be bigger than they are now because of the perfect climate at the time.
Bwahahahahaha. Perfect climate my ass. I'll give you a hint. The climate of the Earth is cyclic. There was never a "perfect climate" on the Earth. Hell, 20,000 years ago was the peak of an ice age for crying out loud.
Regardless, the climate has no effect on the size of the creature. The Woolly mammoth, for example, thrived in the harsh cold environments of north american and eurasia (including siberia) during the ice age.
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also the bible cant be a work of fiction because of how well it corresponds with other historical texts.
Again, that is far from being evidence of anything, much less proof. Ancient texts are filled with random crap that we know isn't true, the bible just happens to be the single ancient text that nut jubs believe is factually accurate.
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then there is the dust on the moon thing that scientists said would completely disprove creation, what happened then? the dust proved that the world was around 6 thousand years old, not a few million
Nice try, but no, not even close. Hell, the Hebrews have been around for longer than 6 thousand years, much less the Earth.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html
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The best age for the Earth comes not from dating individual rocks but by considering the Earth and meteorites as part of the same evolving system in which the isotopic composition of lead, specifically the ratio of lead-207 to lead-206 changes over time owing to the decay of radioactive uranium-235 and uranium-238, respectively. Scientists have used this approach to determine the time required for the isotopes in the Earth's oldest lead ores, of which there are only a few, to evolve from its primordial composition, as measured in uranium-free phases of iron meteorites, to its compositions at the time these lead ores separated from their mantle reservoirs. These calculations result in an age for the Earth and meteorites, and hence the Solar System, of 4.54 billion years with an uncertainty of less than 1 percent.
Rocks on the Earth, rocks from the moon, and rocks from meteorites that crash on the earth can all be dated to around 4.5 billion years old. Yes, Billion.
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yeah but what happens if the climate/ecosystem goes back to the way it was before? then they'll change back and nothing will come from the change... anyways we cant prove evolutions existence because we haven't ever seen it happen, we have seen adaptation but not full scale evolution from one species to another
Uh, no, they wouldn't, there would be no beneficial reason for the "old" species over the "new" one. Since the "old" species has already died out, only the "new" would remain to continue reproduction, thus only the "new" would survive (and thus evolution). Also, by your own logic, god can't exist since you can't see it. Of course, you also can't see gravity, or wind, or magnetic fields.