I can't say I've had success using divs and the position and float attribute in CSS. I'm not an advanced HTML/CSS coder, so you'll have to pardon the best of my abilities.

I did mean to write about HTML rather than CSS.

So, how would you hide any one of these divs without modifying the HTML?
Code:
Psuedo-classes? sideheadtop:n+1 or however they work?

It's a little tricky to get the hang of, but not hard once you get the feel of it. Take a look at both the HTML and CSS source of http://www.sustainableheatingvt.org or http://www.village2villageproject.org (somewhere off the front page where the navigation is showing). I'm not using multiple media types, but the navigation columns are exactly what you'd want to be using here.



I would modify the html in that case, but very small stranges would be required - not an overhaul of the whole template (though changing to div's from tables would require an overhaul). You can specifiy multiple classes for a single element, and insert the secondary classes into the tags which you MIGHT want to hide. Alternatively, you can give each link an id, and define #idrules in the css, or give each link its own class and assign the same definitions to multiple classes (comma separated declarations in the css) like I suggested in the previous post. All of those would require very small changes to the HTML, and most other things would be unchanged. The easiest thing would be to define a mobile_optional class to use as a secondary class for some of the elements (or a mobile_optional_block and mobile_optional_inline).

Anything with inline styling should be made its own class anyway.

Everything's looking good! I love that the profile editing is skinned now, so people won't get stuck in Cemetech6Mobile. And the logo is a great touch. A minor complaint about the New Posts page: can the link be to the last page of the thread (ie, the new post link) rather than to the topic (which is the first page of the topic)? I think that would save extra page loads.

I'll see what I can do, I'll take a look at the variables you've sent me (though I don't think anything pertains to search yet) and add the most appropriate and hope it works.

Also, quoting from C6M; Works great.

Edit works great too!
I got the page list to show up, need a new variable for C6M: the image is broken in in this variable.

Double Post but good enough for a *Major Bump*

I have continued working on C6M bringing it to more pages of the site. Pages now include: Archives & Projects. These are all fully skinned and some variabales are awaiting to be created, however there's only two required and they reside in the "Archives" section, you'll notice it right away.

I've decided to leave out MobileTunes3, SourceCoder and the Photos Module out of the skinning for now.

SourceCoder may likely be added later if users start to browse the site in C6M from desktops, but the second two don't warrant enough traffic (in my opinion) to even consider skinning.

I'm thinking for SourceCoder that I'll detect the user agent of the device browsing C6M and display SC if it's a computer and give the text that's there now if it's a mobile, the same will hold true for MT3 and Photos if those ever get skinned.

Some pages still need to be updated with C6M, those pages include Links & About. The only page I could find to skin out of those two, was the hardware page from About, which isn't skinned itself.

KermM: The two variables I require are derived from {archiverow.DESCHTML};{archiverow.TITLE} & {archiverow.DESC}, with the same formatting. Also, there are pages I don't have access to (not the admin CP, but others) and I'll address those with you over Skype.

Other than that, most of this site is skinned in C6M for the common visitor!

ComicIDIOT, you have done some amazing work here, and I can't wait to turn it on for more users. I can convert the Links page to a template later; I never really wrote the backend for it. I guess I'll have to figure out something for the About pages too, not as sure what I'm going to do about those, since they have relatively static content.

Ah. If you could setup a switch or something, <!-- IF C6M --> <!-- IFEND C6M -->, to recognize the template, I can add the template stuff in that page through that. Then, I'd imagine I can use <!-- IF ! C6M --> to place the standard HTML within or something.

So last thing I knew, you guys were filtering on known user-agents for mobile devices. If this is still how you're doing it (instead of the more obvious m.cemetech.net option) I suggest using the Apache Mobile Filter service. You can pass it a user-agent as a query string and get back some XML that you can parse and check the IS_WIRELESS_DEVICE element. There's also IS_TABLET which could be useful.

I'm all for m.cemetech but I'm concerned about users who are on MobileIRC who then click on links. They'd open the default version of cemetech every time. So it'd be nice to have some level of user agent filtering to redirect those users to the appropriate theme.

At the moment, both phones and handheld tablets are under the same theme, there's no point in designing another site for a larger screen when this one scales just fine.

My suggestion was more that you use the Apache thing, rather than making another site. I was just point out that IS_TABLET is there. More importantly, IS_WIRELESS_DEVICE is there.

Not sure how we'd use IS_TABLET but IS_WIRELESS_DEVICE would definitely be useful.

My alternate thought was continue doing the user-agent thing, but add a way for users in the mobile thing to set a cookie element to use the full site without forced mobile for the remainder of the session. I guess I would still like an m.cemetech.net at some point in the future, but I don't want to make things too complex for myself.

If you go with the cookie, I can place a link right next to "Edit Profile."

Not a bad idea, but let's see what these guys think of that option first. It sounds slightly awkward, and I'd like to keep this as non-awkward as possible.

I love finding interesting things.


Anyways, Private Messages are done.





I dropped the "Flag" and "Date" columns for space. They are fixed width and I didn't feel like revamping the entire design of the PM system. It will happen though. It will happen. I did revamp the way you read PM's, now much more like a proper post. Instead, I made the PM subject more prominent. Instead of a post where it's italicized and small, see this post in C6M. Can anyone that doesn't have an iDevice confirm the look of the PM Inbox? I want to make sure this is easily see able. But on a small screen when it's all mashed together, your eyes draw the line from subject, to sender rather easily. Other work I completed are the Post Preview & Topic Review segments. I removed the topic review from it's iframe as the scroll bars took valued space.

I'm not 100% positive how to implement the PM Notification text into the header but I'll drop the URL to your inbox in the footer, again.

A doublepost? From Alex? Say it ain't so. I think it was the right idea to drop those columns, and from your description, this sounds great. I'll check out all the new things on my phone later. I think removing topic review was also a good idea for my poor phone's memory. We'll have to talk about the PM notifications. I still haven't implemented those Archive variables for you, I'll do that now.

Edit: New variables are LINK_URL and LINK_TEXT. That's what you needed, right? DESC is still always plaintext.

Did I? I posted from C6M on my Desktop and believe I only clicked Post once. I'll try another long post from C6M and see if that double posts.
Awesome! I didn't remove it, I just removed it from the iFrame. I suppose then I should remove it altogether? I added those and I believe you misinterpreted what I needed.

{archiverow.DESCHTML} provides both the title (formatted) and description for the file and or folder being browsed. I need that broken down into separate, non-formatted, variables so I can place the Description below the program download link and it's title; I already have the variables for the program/folder paths. I was thinking of keeping the formatting for the Title but I'm not sure how'd that look on smaller devices, so I suppose I'll just style it with CSS.

Ah. I took a look at that, and there's a slightly complex function that generates that HTML. It might be moderately difficult to pull that apart, but I'll give it the old college try on Sunday or so. A few weird bugs I noticed using C6m today:

1) When the newposts search page shows more than 0 rows, the "this week" link does not appear for some reason. Any ideas?
2) I agree that removing the thread preview would be an excellent idea, if you don't totally object.
3) Benryves noticed that every time I clicked a link inside Cemetech on my phone and loaded a new page, SAX reported that I entered the room again. This had the unfortunate effect of wiping the newposts list for me. I'm not sure if that's on your end, though.

I love this, you guys. I'm always on cemetech.net on my iTouch, and this was much-needed! It makes things so much easier. One suggestion, though, for the current layout: avatar thumbnails, only as big as the header is tall.

Edit: because I recognize who the poster is first by their avatar.

Ikes, sounds good. I don't need the formatting HTML, just the name and description, or is that what you were talking about? As in, the two or closely knitted together? 1) Unable to replicate at the moment, but it's likely that I didn't skin that part of the new posts. I'll take a look.
2)Not at all; others might but until we hear from them.
3)I tried to replicate that on my end to no avail. There must be some JS somewhere left on C6M that's causing this to happen (and that prevents users from creating a new session on every page load). It's likely a mix on both our ends.

progbeard: Thanks! What avatars are you referring to? Obviously the users but in forum posts or the profile pages? Currently, only the profile pages contain the avatars. I have no plans to add them to posts.