Too bad they only got rid of some of the bill!

1 out of 3 rulings doesn't get rid of anything.

Some of that bill is good--for instance, under the Health Care Bill, insurance companies can no longer refuse coverage to children with pre-existing conditions (and presumbably adults as well, but I only know for a fact that this is true for children).
Making people buy health insurance may be unconstitutional, but I'm pretty sure that denying children the health care they need is just as bad.

The Health Care Bill affects me personally--if I lose my health care coverage temporarily, I would be considered to have a "pre-existing condition".

Same here. There's a lot of people who need this legislation, and many more for whom it came too late...

And the repeal vote is coming up soon in the house. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1923607420110119

They want to repeal it, then put back in place the same f--king provisions, presumably so they can take credit for it. It's scummy, and no reasonable person should want any part of it.

Now, one provision in particular they want to put back in place, is to keep it illegal for insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions. Please explain to me how you can do this, without an individual mandate.

Every other civilized country in the world has already long since dealt with this problem using government-funded care, but nooooo we can't do that, that would be radical marxist facist,communist socialism! We could have had a public option, which would not have necessitated any new regulations on the rest of the market, but noooooo, we couldn't have that, that would be evil communist socialist baby-killing hitler facism too.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-healthcare-ruling-20110201,0,5516563.story

26 states have successfully been exempted from the bill by ruling of a Federal judge.

Hooray for murder!

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-jackson-lee-no-penalty-obamacare-onl

I don't care who you are, and what your political alignment. Anyone with a brain would have to ask wtf is wrong with this person's thought.

"It's not a penalty, it's an incentive"

Seriously, wtf is she smoking?

Your guy's thoughts? :/

It is a penalty, I won't mince words, but the only alternatives are either a public option(which is radical facist socialism!) or allowing insurers to continue to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions(murder). If you take out the mandate, but leave the pre-existing condition clause, people won't buy insurance until they need it, and insurance companies will go out of business. That would create a power vacuum that could only be filled by a universal federal system(also radical socio-marxism). Is that really what you want?

Not quite: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0228/Health-care-reform-How-big-is-Obama-s-concession

okay "incentivized" did she really say that? wow.

Also, the only reason I don't support a government option is because of the fact that the government has a way to keep prices insanely low. It's kinda hard to compete with free or very cheep. I like my capitalistic competition very much.

Your "capitalistic competition" is actually a monopoly that keeps prices so insanely high that most can't afford the coverage they need, and end up dying of treatable illnesses. Our ridiculously high infant mortality is a prime example.


Now that is a good idea. Only time will tell if Republicans decide it's sociofacist as well.

Can I get your source for that infant mortality rate please? Also, I agree that there needs to be more competition (monopoly == no one to have competition with) but with the government running it, everyone else goes out of business and you're stuck with a monopoly again, that might just have been worse than the first. Cheaper, yes, more effective? Doubtful considering the government's overall track record.

Every other civilized nation in the world has done just fine with publicly-funded healthcare.

As for infant mortality:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

It's not as bad as a lot of other places, but it's much worse than it should be for the greatest country in the world.

What? There's no such thing as a biased judge? Humans aren't fallible?

This is exactly why I support Robotocracy...

I hear that. The only problem with that is people will invariably look at the robot's creator for bias, and find it.

<3 Ron Paul:

I have no time or patience for Ron Paul. He believes in aristocracy(that only the rich should get 'privileges' like education and healthcare) and calls it "Libertarianism". I'll have nothing to do with a pre-FDR gentry/rabble system thank you very much. I like my middle class.

*eyeroll*

You clearly didn't listen to anything he said.