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[DigiTan]

Sorry about not uploading the physics code yet. Because of finals I'm trying to cut down on my posting and calc work until May 2nd.

[shadowing]

Tis okay Digitan.

Here are our initial plans. We plan to create just the Sonic prog. This prog. will contain the main graphics and physics engine and level detectors.

So basically, for flexibility, you can use separate level programs to conserve space and not play any levels you hate.

[aforsy]

when you release the program, release it packaged with a few (two or three) of the best levels, or maybe on in each difficulty.

that way people can see if they like the game, then download extra levels, rather than having to guess which levels are good and then finding out they suck and then they quit the game FOREVER!!!!! AAAAH...*pant*

[DigiTan]

Alright, object collision code is approching and I've got a few 16x16 badnik sprite request for a graphics team.

* Sonic ducking
* Motobot
* Buzzbomber
* Those Chemeleon things

Also, if someone knows a website with the Green Hill Zone level map, we just might be able to do a ~exact port of that stage. No promises until compression is tested. :ninja:

[jvdthwip]

This page has full maps for every level in Sonic 1:
Sonic Maps

Hope this helps.

[Madskillz]

hey man...I have converted almost all of raisers sprites into .gst format, I think I have those ones if not, I can get them for you tomorrow aight man? Sorry I haven't really been on top of things!

[DigiTan]

Okay; while you're at it, can you do some slopes for the Green Hill tile set? Also, if we can shrink the palmtree down to 16x16, it'll save a lot of space. In the meantime, I'll finish map collisions so Sonic can run on hills and loops.

Also can someone get level maps for the Genesis version? If our levels are 512 tiles long, we can definately port that version.

[jvdthwip]

[quote name='"DigiTan"']Also can someone get level maps for the Genesis version?[/quote][quote name='"jvdthwip"']This page has full maps for every level in Sonic 1 [Genesis]:
Sonic Maps

Hope this helps.[/quote]
I must be invisible.

[DigiTan]

Those are all from the Game Gear version. :confused:

[jvdthwip]

Oops! Sorry, I didn't realize that!
I can always rip them myself with an emulator, I can't seem to find them anywhere...

[DigiTan]

Okay, I finally found the level maps. They're at the Sonic Research Zone webpage. I got halfway through coping the Green Hill Zone, and it looks like if we 256 x 32 maps, we can do a pretty good rendition of that one. There is also a ton of empty space, which will really boost compression. I'll compress the GHZ version and come back with the percentages.

[Madskillz]

Great digi, sorry about not getting that zip to ya yet. Once I started school I have had an essay due the next day and I got another one do Tuesday...but I have to work tonight and both Sat/Sun. So I will try and get the ones you needed done tonight if not it will be sometime this weekend. I will also give you a complete zip of all the current sprites and stuff...there is stuff in there that you have never seen, I think you might enjoy them!

I had thought at one point that Raiser was working on making a greenhill zone conversion, but I havent talked with him recently to confirm that or not. I do know there is a level done in the things that I had gotten from him...but I will show you that later on next week.

Until tonight or tomorrow, peace!

[DigiTan]

Yeah, school's got to come first. I tried converting half of green hill just for compression purposes. It was at 32x128 tiles and here's what I got:

ZCP compression (65%)
Apack compression (91%)



...still haven't gotten to RLE, but it's really got a tough act to follow. I've never seen anything get more than 85% compression so this is looking really good. We should try to recompress the titlescreens and see if we can crack the 50% mark.

As far as I could tell Act 1 was a ~little too large to fit in 32x256 tiles, but our copy doesn't have to a tile-for-tile copy. As long as its pretty darn close.

[Madskillz]

I told you apack would be good! :biggrin:

[DigiTan]

Yeah, I've gotta hand it to you; you were right on the money there.

[Madskillz]

I have been experimenting with apack lately, I found it to be the best with what I needed. I got the sonic baddies done...I had to change some of them, Raiser, you crack me up mate, I made them all 16x16..tricky little bastard made them a tad bit too tall, 16x27 come on Raiser! I dont think we lost really any detail, I'll show you what I mean later...

I will send you the PM of them tonight man...I am almost done converting all of Sonics moves, jumping, spinning, ducking and the like...I will have that for you tomorrow...I have also had this sweet idea playing over and over in my mind about the level title screen...I think I have most of the code worked out on paper, I will mess with that also sometime this weekend, probably labor day, if all goes well. I will also try and work on some other side stuff...

[voodoo721]

would it be possible to have the main levels internal, but then still be able to process extrenal levels?

[DigiTan]

Right now, it looks like we're lined up for all-external levels, with possibly internal bonus levels and boss areas. It's still a little early for this, so we haven't really discussed it too much.

[voodoo721]

oh, thats cool. any more news or updates?

[DigiTan]

Not much as of yet. There's been some problems porting some stuff between models, so until this is cleared up, progress may be slow. Now that my other project is almost done, I should have some extra time on the weekend to look into this.