An *exact* port?

[SonicBoom95]

First, I'd like to say I am ridiculously, amazingly excited about this project and where it's going. Now, that said, I am wondering about creating an EXACT port. I mean, if you're even considering downloading this, you've already played Red/Blue/Yellow, right? So why an exact port? Subtle changes, easter eggs, new items, anything.

Those were my thoughts. Feel free to flame.

[DJ Omnimaga]

IIRC it is not an exact port. Of course the entire game is the same, except for some difference. Tell me if I am wrong (tifreak) but IIRC all 151 pokemons are avaliable into one game, which is purple, instead of being spread between two versions of the game. However it could be just that when game starts you select Blue/Red in a menu.

Also another difference is that the shitty english translation (a problem in lot of japaneese games, especially RPGs) is being fixed. Some sentences that didn't made any sense are being replaced, or some dialogue extended/added.

Also Nitacku has been added as replacement to Pikachu ()

[TheStorm]

if someone was bored enough they could technically take the code from the real game because the cpu's are similar enough(z80 sharp8080) and just remove the sound and change the graphics to make it work. but the game then would still be huge taking up most if not all of the calcs archive.( rom is 1.5mb which is exactly how much space the se calcs have)

[tifreak8x]

Thanks SonicBoom95! :)

My first thought into this game was to make it so one played through one version, then the other. Then I realized how difficult that would be, and changed that idea to both versions are essentially there, you choose which one to play through. At the end of one, you can get Mewtwo, and at the end of the other, you can get Mew. Thought it would add a little bit to replay value and such. Trading will be available, etc. Not sure about linked battles, yet, will have to see what kind of link program I can find or get made specifically for this.


Also, there are a few modifications that I am doing for this:

1) No more stupid text in the pokedex. It was a huge waste of space

2) Organized item system, similar to the newest versions of pokemon

3) Stupid dialogues will be edited to be a lil more realistic, or changed all together

Hopefully I can get a new beta out to you guys in the next month or so...

[nitacku]

[DJ Omnimaga]

Maybe an easter eggroll (altough only people from #omnimaga would get what I mean)

[Liazon]

[tr1p1ea]

Sorry TheStorm but it doesnt really work that way. The hardware is drastically different - so much so that such a feat would basically be impossible. That said, ripping the graphics and stuff (what tifreak has done) is of course possible and the best way to go about it imo!

Make a Ti-83+ pokemon! .

[DJ Omnimaga]

not sure but I expect Purple to take around 1 MB of archive memory, which is bigger than all my 23 calc RPGs together. In asm i think it could be possible though

[TheStorm]

What i meant was to rip the main engine code but yeah It would be close to impossible to do but still possible. and because of the screen differences not even the sprite data is that useful.

[Taricorp]

[SonicBoom95]

I really did think the "Nitacku" thing was hilarious, and one of the few times while browsing forums I have actually ROFLMAO'd.

However (feel free to flame me for this) I think the decision to have to choose between Blue/Red, while increasing replay value, is really cheap. That is one of the things I hated most about Red/Blue/Yellow (look it up). You had to buy another cartridge, play through the game AGAIN (with some subtle differences) and then finally start achieving a full Pokedex. Annoying, to say the least, and the reason why I never got a full Pokedex. (Mom: Why do you need another? Did you lose yours?)

While we're here, I was wondering how the scripted events would be handled (most notable is the first appearance of Prof. Oak).

EDIT: Spelling.

[tifreak8x]

Tr1p1ea: And I am only using the old games for NPC sprites. The pokemon sprites came from Leafgreen FireRed. :)

SonicBoom95: You have a valid point, yet this is all in one game, each with a rare pokemon at the end that can only be in one. ;)

As to the events... That will be complicated. I will have it look for special chars, and compare to list values. There are going to be spots where it slows a lil bit, but that cannot be helped. Heck, it does that in the original games anyways.

[SonicBoom95]

Not that I've noticed (the slowing).

[tifreak8x]

I have noticed on certain things, it "hesitates", since it has to find the next bit of code to work with.

Anyways, can't be too picky, since this is in basic, not in the 8080 asm

[DJ Omnimaga]

True and it will probably outdo all existing calc RPGs in term of hours of gameplay (except maybe Illusiat 12)

[TheStorm]

Just to clarify for future reference the z80 was based on the Intel 8080 and is binnary compatible with it plus it and a few extra registers and op-codes. the sharp 8080 is based on the z80 but has some slight differences and may support some commands that the z80 doesn't and the z80 might have some the sharp 8080 doesn't.

[SonicBoom95]

Okay. Back to the scripted events. While I realize it wouldn't be amazingly hard to trigger these events, I have to wonder how we'll handle, say, the forced march to Oak's lab (dang, now I have that music stuck in my head again...Dum dum dum dum dum...). Anyway, we COULD cheat and hardcode it. Just put in Output()s up the Wazoo and the problem is solved. But somehow I don't like that...

Those were my thoughts. The policy about flaming still applies.

EDIT: Changed swearing.

[tifreak8x]

Well, that trigger will be like this: It will check that a user is in the grass then call a program to see if a value of a list is met. If it is not, run a program that will do that event. If it has, begin checking if this is a random encounter. Etc.

That is my plan, anyways..

[SonicBoom95]

Yeah, but you guys all remember the animation, right? Like your following Oak for about 8 seconds back to the lab. I'm wondering how to do THAT, if we do at all.